The 963 class were disposed of prematurely. The Columbia class will take over the role of submarine presence in the United States’ strategic nuclear force. Powered by Blogger. I loved bothe Sprucans I was on. We worked hard and played hard. Very sad to see this great class go…and I was not even on any them. It was cheaper and more effective to scrap the SPRUANCEs in favor of an entirely new class of vessels who could exchange and manage battle space data much more efficiently. “The Clyde/Forth complex is a UK centre of excellence in frigate/destroyer manufacturing” These are the guys that glued bolt heads to the deck in the River class ships. Recalled for Desert Storm and worked the Pentagon intel jobs…best billet I ever had!!! BTW, I was on one of those Charles Adams class DDGs, the Goldsborough (DDG-20). [22] The Navy wants to procure the first Columbia-class boat in FY2021. Today they have in commission: 22 remaining Ticos, 12 OHPs (that are largely disarmed and rapidly retiring), 4 (unproven) LCS’s,  and 62 Burke-class destroyers, the first of which was laid down on 16 September 1989. I miss the comradery of blue-water sailors Nice to see it / feel it on Facebook pages. They are presently serving honorably and proudly in the Taiwan Navy. Had some wonderful experiences as well as alot if growing up! I served as an ET onboard the USS Comte De Grasse DD974 from 1983-1986 . It is part of a wider (Integrated electric power) concept whose aim is to create an "all electric vessel". I was with you onboard at the same time I live in mobile and was only 45 minutes away from home during her overhaul in pascagoula I was a gse you know she has a reunion coming up here in April here in Mobile too many hurgada visits for me during that red sea deployment did get to see some great action on that cruise though, Enjoyed reading. Thanks to the internet and facebook have been able to reconnect with several of my old shipmates. Also, note the Phalanx CIWS mounts port and starboard. Terrific to hear from you! Perhaps you can contact the Orleck museum for more info on that scheme. They have passed the torch to a younger and more formidable group of ships. USS Comte de Grasse (DD-974), 1987-1991 it never quit, we were asea forever. The Board of Inspection and Survey (INSURV) was bound and determined to help Big Navy get rid of the SPRUCANs by failing them in their 5-year inspections (in 2002, aboard 989, we were the only SPRU in recent memory to–barely–pass an INSURV). As another Conolly plankowner, I fully agree with Tim and was dismayed to learn of the ship’s mothballing in 1998 after barely 20 years in commission, and eventual demise as a test target. We nearly ran onto a reef in the Caribbean when the Omega system skipped lanes and gave us false navigation plots. Also, the irony is that the first four Ticos themselves were originally drawn up as DDGs! USS John Rodgers has a Facebook page. roster of the magnanimous The Pete was my last ride 9/86-8/88. The 48, which featured a flat rectangular antenna, was made by ITT Gilfillan. I put the David R. Ray (DD-971) in commission and served aboard her for 5 years. https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsMy Dad was on DD 974 during that time. While I really liked the ship and it’s crew…the ship itself was a piece of crap! [41], Conceptually, electric drive is only a segment of the propulsion system (it does not replace the nuclear reactor or the steam turbines). Pingback: East Bank buzzing again | laststandonzombieisland. Over unionised, lazy, & stroppy with it. Note the “stealth” hull configurations of the DDG-51 Class. https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsThe 40B was a functional equivalent of the original 40 (essentially same cabinets/controls) but with solid-state upgrades in most of the modules. Better to stay out of trouble than to get out of trouble. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. When I saw the video of her sinking, water just started coming out of my eyes. Engineering: Auxiliary Dept. They drove the ship hard a lot, tore the fantail hand rail and trash chute several times. Granted, the US Navy doesn’t have to go to war with the Soviets anymore ala-Red Storm Rising, but there is still a global need for surface combatants from the South China Sea to the HOA to the Med and the Persian Gulf. https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.js, http://www.navsource.org/archives/11/0834.htm, Warship Wednesday: March 9, 2016 Blooming flowers for Agerholm | laststandonzombieisland, http://www.reunion16.wixsite.com/ussjohnyoung, Warship Wednesday, Feb. 19, 2020: Hannah on the Beach | laststandonzombieisland, Warship Wednesday, April 15, 2020: The Winged Spinach Can | laststandonzombieisland, East Bank buzzing again | laststandonzombieisland, National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. [42], In 2014, Northrop Grumman was chosen as the prime designer and manufacturer of the turbine generator units. Great cruise. The results of that study found that yearly deterrent patrols reduced by 56% from 1999 to 2013. In ’93 we launched 14 Tomahawks on Baghdad and on two deployments with the Ike we were rarely with the carrier group. I was on Board the Fletcher 1993-1996 when I got out from active duty. I laugh when I see that the Navy saved 28 million a year on operations! A lot of good memories tied up in both those old girls…. Video of Stump SINKEX literally brought me to tears…Yorktown is decommissioned, but still afloat up in the northeast pending some kind of decision on disposition. ), Pre-com plankowner DD963 USS Spruance shake down cruse and left the Spruance and the Navy Aug. 17 1976 One thing that did fascinate me is the level of vertical integration practiced by Litton Industries in the outfitting of the ship: Numerous other subsidiaries participated along with Ingalls: There were Clifton Precision SPA-25 radar scopes in CIC, Amecom communication gear in the radio room, Frigitemp chillers in the galley, and Royal typewriters (along with Monroe calculators) in the office. Their long legs (6000+ nm at 20 knots on two turbines), allowed them to self-deploy away from the battle group and a lot of the flag-waving done in foreign ports during the Regan-Bush-Clinton years was done by Spruances operating alone. I was an OS/ship rescue swimmer 80-83 on DD-973 USS John Young. Celebrating the Past, Present and Future of Navy Cryptology, Official site for National Guard marksmanship training and competitions. but the Spruance’s were in such bad shape that they ended up replacing them instead and the OHP’s stuck around as glorified gun boats a lot longer than desired. It doesn't work today and onward as Navy now put Chinese navy as its no. [33] In 1998, the Defence Science Board envisaged a nuclear-powered submarine that would use direct energy conversion, eliminating the need for both reduction gearing as well as steam turbines. Plankowner USS Fletcher DD992 BM3 AlexRodriguez, I was a plank-owner on the USS Cushing (DD985), a fine ship! USS Spruance (DD-963) ship’s propulsion control center, during her trials period, May 1975. [4] The Navy has a goal of reducing the average cost of the remaining 11 planned hulls in the class to $4.9 billion each (fiscal 2010 dollars). If you’re not a member ask to be added. I believe it was because of the so-called peace dividend after the Cold War. Went through GITMO reftra, Oct, 1985 and then on to the med cruise 1986. USS Caron (DD 970. With the Burkes, its a side-job. You probably know this, but Capt.Harbrect, Capt Lash, and Master Chief Huggins are still around Pascagoula, actually I think Capt Harbrect is in Fairhope, Alabama, https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsThen commander Lash was the best officer I ever had the honor to serve with. But later on the railings (or whatever the term is) are gray like the rest of the ship? Was at Leehelm for my GQ station when Stump fired Tomahawks into Iraq just after the end of the first Gulf War…quite an experience! Served on USS FLETCHER DDDD992 from 91 to 95. [59][60], Sources such as the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) suggest that the number of submarines should be lower due to an ever-decreasing number of deterrent patrols in the post-Cold War era and as a cost reduction measure. When ours blew, I remember the tedious process of flipping this very heavy unit between two dollies in the radar room vestibule to get it out onto the main passageway, then wheeling it through the hangar and out to the flight deck, where a pier-based crane took it away while my chief (ETC Ronald Pyle) looked on. I’ve always told myself that I would have remained in the Navy if the Hill and her officers were my first tour! I served on 2 SpruCans: USS PAUL F FOSTER (DD 964) as OPS Boss and USS O’BRIEN (DD 975) as XO. [50][51] Permanent magnet motors, developed by Siemens AG, are used on Type 212 submarines, in service with the German and Italian navies. ( Log Out /  The shame in the SPRUANCE class retirement is that the Navy did a poor job of maintaining and upgrading them. Switching on-the-fly from slow to fast was no problem, but we needed to warn our OS’s about the damage risk of going from fast to slow without first doing a total stop, where braking would be properly applied. Drone anti submarine helicopters Unmanned helicopters capable of carrying nuclear depth charges. Instead of being crammed full of TLAMs, these new DDGs have to allocate most of their space to carrying surface to air missiles. The USS Orleck, shown here in 1964, a WWII veteran still going strong, by the 1970s needed to be replaced. The Spru’s were a wee bit bigger but you had lots more guns, 3 dual 5″/38 mounts. Catalog #: USN 1144349 Copyright Owner: National Archives. Navy made a big mistake not at least mothballing at least 20 of them! I was across the pier from you on the USS John Rodgers (DD-983). Commissioned her as an ETC, Departed a year later as an LDO Ensign. You wonder what our planners are thinking?? Everything else can be handled by the Coast Guard. From top to bottom: USS Peterson (DD-969), USS Arthur W. Radford (DD-968), USS Elliot (DD-967), USS Hewitt (DD-966), Kinkaid (DD-965), USS Caron (DD-970) PCUs are visible, At least five Spruance-class destroyers being built by the Ingalls Shipbuilding Division of Litton Industries at Pascagoula, Mississippi, with the two closest being USS Conolly (DD-979) and USS Moosbrugger (DD-980), 25 May 1977. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! and eventually San Diego on her….I feel the same way…heart-broken to hear the fate of the Spruance class…. At least they were not sold to another country. Loved every minute of it. I always liked your XO approach…fair and honest. I generally regarded the Ingalls Shipyard as a bunch of rednecks with welding rods. Best years of my life were on a Sprucan. [19], In late 2016, some 3,000 employees were involved, in Electric Boat alone, in the detailed design phase of the program,[20] with the procurement of the first submarine scheduled for 2021. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Ex-XO Harry W Hill, Hey there XO!!! Thanks for the article. We’re in dire need of an administration, Congress, and Military Leadership that willing to make the right arguments to them both for WHY we need their unequivocal SUPPORT ! My husband, MAC Frank Pierce was also a plankowner on Cushing. What a platform. The aluminium hull construction specifically. Still, they made good backdrop for 1984 recruiting commercials– set in British controlled Hong Kong! They were great ships and it broke my heart to see them be tossed aside like they were. I agree that they were decommissioned way too early. I served nn the UssComte De Grasse DD 974 from 1984 to 1987 great ship just found out her fate saddens me to hear that she rest on the bottom of the ocean miss her and my ship mate God bless Them all. The skipper “reminded” the Navy Dept. I still want to see a Littoral Combat Ship sometime look ‘s neat in a spaceship kind of way. Dan, I served on Elliot from 81-85 also, sk3 Schwartz, I remember dan the brother of dale hatcher , Im gsm2 winger the most awsome memories and buddies on the uss elliot DD967 early 80’s. Instead, it replaces reduction gearing (mechanical drive) used on earlier nuclear-powered submarines. Had a similar mechanical upgrade been given to the 24-VLS equipped Spurances, they would all still be in service. It would have been prohibitively expensive to retrofit the SPRUANCE hull with AEGIS. This changed over time and by the late 1980s, they were pretty capable ships. Spent a considerable amount of time in Pascagoula. Saw Regec, though. Back in the early 1970s, the US Navy needed a replacement for the old FRAM’d WWII era Sumner and Gearing leftovers from the 1940s and 50s in the fleet. Those 1940s era steam powerplants are killers. Today we face challenges on all fronts with neither the manpower nor the equipment to support sustained operations in a multiple theater scenario. Commissioned Thorn DD 988 in 2/80. ), As a former US NAVY VET..(Bt3..yeah what`s a Bt? Funny thing we’re all correct, and all saddened at the premature end of every damn one of them,regardless of the reason for it. And if we fight the Chinese expect the Russian’s to jump in on their side! and retired from the Naval Reserve as well. A great ship and really hated to see her sunk. Her story is typical of her class. [12] The high cost of the submarines is expected to cut deeply into Navy shipbuilding. What a great tour of duty. It was like having a brand new car with all the bells and whistles. Nice article mate! I “borrowed” the “Moose” as we called her for my last reenlistment ceremony, august, 1999. I served on the Fletcher Dd-992 from 1993-1996. [4], Electric Boat is designing the Ohio replacement submarines with help from Newport News Shipbuilding. [7][8][9], The Columbia class is being designed to replace the UGM-133 Trident II–armed Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines, whose remaining boats will be decommissioned, one per year, beginning in 2027. The only big drawback that I can think of is that the superstructure was aluminum. [4] The CMC will house SLBMs in "quad packs". As a kid, I used to sit at the old Point on Beach Boulevard and watch these sleek 563-foot long greyhounds birthed for Poseidon’s fox hunts. Navy realized Zumwalt class destroyer (DDG1000) is a strategic blunder thus cut its production to only 3. The four KIDD class of upgraded Spruance destroyers were neither scrapped nor sunk. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. She was the last in the continuous line of hull numbers. She was a fine ship and it broke my heart to hear that she was used as target practice and sunk. I was on USS Peterson from 86-90. USS John Young (DD-973) I was an EW on DD-971 (David R. Ray) for a couple of years early to mid ’80s. I was the commissioning Operations Officer in USS SPRUANCE (DD-963). We were down there in ‘80 doing radar picket with new Outboard listening system. I was on the Stump DD-978 from 81-85. EM2 DeKilder. Writing about whatever interests me, and maybe you. Never served aboard any of these ships or in the Navy, but I always admired these ships. (Later on ships had gray railings in the ’90s). USS FIFE/DD 991 However, the Ticonderoga-class cruisers are roughly the same age. . Same base platform, different mission package…, I object to your use of the term, “bankrupt Carter military.”. So she serves a greater purpose than a “Target” The USS Ingersoll, DD-990 was a good example of how the “Spru-cans” came out of Pascagoula in the 1980s. I too thought that they were decommed WAY too early. ( Log Out /  I was on Her from 91 until 93 as a CTM1 up in outboard on 03 level you never made it that high I am sure nose bleeds and all…. I never said the DDG-51s are not capable, or that a Spruance class was comparable, the 51’s were laid down in 1989 and are a generation evolved. Even with all the trials and tribulations the “KinkyD” went through, I was surprised when I learned of its destruction. Sad to hear their fate and why…. and a missile launcher on the fantail. Spruance-class destroyer USS Peterson (DD-969) with Soviet Moma AGS class survey vessel Nakhodka in the Sargasso Sea 1983 on the rescue op for Victor III-class SSN K-324. USS JOHN YOUNG REUNION Cadillacs…..Plain and simple, Our Ship (USS FIFE), could tear through the water, Hunted Subs like a fox, and always looked sleek and sure in or out of port. Constantly called away for solitary duties. A bit of a story first, Capt., then a thought about what you wrote. Yes, of course, the SPRUANCE hulls are the same as the TICOs, thus showing their retirement was early. Thanks for your service! [4], In studies to determine how many submarines would be needed to support the United States' strategic nuclear force, the U.S. Navy looked at the number of missiles required to be at sea and on station at any given time, the number of missiles each submarine should be armed with and the likelihood that a submarine will remain undiscovered by the enemy and be capable of launching its missiles. I served on the USS F B Parks DD-884(Gearing class destroyer). We attended a reunion in S.Diego a couple of years ago. I won’t go any farther than that. The crux of the argument in the post is that the Spruances were put to pasture too early when they clearly had another decade or more of life in them. What a waste!!! “Be just and fear not” USS Hewitt DD-966. The big secret to this whole thing is that it was cheaper to up grade then build a new ship. [46] Those being considered for application on future U.S. Navy submarines include permanent magnet motors (PMM) (being developed by General Dynamics and Newport News Shipbuilding) and a high-temperature superconducting (HTS) synchronous motors, being developed by American Superconductors as well as General Atomics. well!!! Next duty station was Fleet Training Group Guantanamo Bay, Cuba from November 1991-June 1995 as a shipboard instructor on Perry class Frigates, Spruance class Destroyers, and Ticonderoga class Cruisers. My First Ship was DD-977 Briscoe. At sea spent alot of time topside checking out the stars while underway. 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